Do you think the Ref affected Club America in the First game of the Copa

[EL_TRI]

Sudamericana Final? To me its clear he did. The first goal Arsenal scored was scored by a player that should have been red carded for the kick he gave Cabanas early in the game. In the second goal, there was a clear handball by Calderon who almost grabbed the ball with both hands as he carried it a couple steps then passed it to the player that scored the goal. The black defender Mosqueda had a clear handball which should have been his second yellow late in the 2nd half and only a foul was called. An offside on a THROW IN????? WOW!! Lopez was taken down in the Penalty area which should have been atleast a direct kick if not a penalty. The ref did not give out enough yellow cards at the beginning of the game which gave Arsenal confidence to commit hard dirty fouls through out the game. America fell into their game because it seamed the Ref was on Arsenals side. The ref set the tone for a bad game. Two goals by Arsenal that should have not counted, lots of bad calls on both sides but they were harsher CA!

[cbamerica10]

he affected everything, german villa should of been expulsado for throwing that guy, and also the guy from arsenal that did the mano, and the three goals america recieved were all their own errors,especially the third one. they still played better and i think they will win if they play the same offense

[Dog]

The ref ruined the game for America and helped Arsenal win it...Everything you said was right; the first goal was from a free kick that wasn't even a foul, especially when you consider that the ref ignored other calls that should have been called fouls. The other one was scored after a clear handball...it's sad that the game was so horrible because if the ref had been fair America should have won this one easily...I'm not an Americanista but I'm pissed as hell!

[EvE pilot]

yes ref definately ruined it for em