Debate-Did Hugo Sanchez kill Mexico chance of taking Mexico to the next step?

[ChrisELChivaBarca49]

after watching the horrible game against Argentina it got me thinking did Mexico take a good step back are we going going backwards insteand of forward are we in the middle of huge regression in Mexican football I wonder now more then ever what happen to the La Volpe style of play the style that saw us give that same Argentina that beat us 4-1 a run for it's Money the same Argentina we proved rselfs to and beat in Copa America 04, the same Argentina many say we out played in the Confedrations 05 and World Cup 2006 and that we shouldv'e won


La Volpe left after 06 his Attitude was not great to say the least but his style in big games gave us hope theat no one could deny the hope that we could play France,Argentina,Brazil and Portugal and give them a run for there money

now La Volpe left Hugo came in but not before offering the job to Vicente del Bosque

I don't even know how he got the job just by running his mouth I guess throwing La Volpe name under the boss gave him the
gave him the upper hand what I don't understand how Mexico went from a pretty good coach in Vicente del Bosque to Hugo honestly he didn't have the credentials to take on a National Team but he got the job anyway and he went all out promise after after promise the guy sounded like a Genny and many if not all where taken in by his words made us believe that he could lead Mexico to it's highest points but he failed and boy did he ever

one could say he did great in Copa America but was it really him or was it that some the player like Cacho,Nery,Memo and the rest where passing threw great moments in there careers more then him being a good coach who knows what was the reason but it happen and we failed there to

and for those who think well we got 3rd place well my friend third place is not good enough anymore not for Mexico we want more

spoiled are we ?

no why? cause we saw what Mexico could do and we want that but consistently
the repair process now whether you like it or you don't Sven is left to pick us up from the disaster that was

will he or is this just going to get worser?

[HATER]

I'm going to say this first pretty good debate you really pointed out alot of things good acticle

as a USA fan I must say Mexico is going threw tuff time I just hope they don't recover HA HA HA

[albertopazakaamericanistaforlife6666]

you can say lavolpe was good for mexico but lets not forget that he hurts mexicos chances in 2006 by keeping out blanco and even bofo hugo was a disater he gave boring speeches than stratgies like who cares about getting new uniformes work on tatics man like you said before we wont worry about sven choosing faveriots over deserved player except nery but nery is a great player so i think sven will get mexico to be a world contender

[pedropablojimenez]

well since mexico only has one guy with the magnitue of hugo, he had to have his shot. luckily it ended quickly and the world cup dream is still alive. i believe mexican soccer is growing faster than ever. new players are going to europe and to good teams! lower class players are getting invited to lower class european countries or even to south america or the mls which isnt too bad. i even read some mexicans are the stars of beliz, this is funny but interesting. if they couldnt make it in mexico why not keep playing soccer. chivas china will open paths to europe. new european players are making recomendations as did guardado and salcido. an interesting fact is brazil exports 1100 players a year out of brazil. that is amazing even if some play in beliz, korea, or england. mexico is not dead just waiting to win something big like world cup, america, libertades in club teams, or fifa club trophy. i believe erickson will bring much help to mexico and finally prove to the us how superior mexico is as the third potential in the americas and sometimes equal to argentina and brazil.

[Eazy5244]

Well, here's my answer:
I don't think that we are going anywhere backwards, the game in Germany '06, we dominated them and we made the whole world think that Argentina were going to lose, but it comes down to this point, we didn't, we didn't beat Argentina and at the end of the day, that's what really matters, Argentina knocked us out of the World Cup. Now, you say that with LaVolpe we had a style, no offense to you, but I don't know what style you're talking about. When we talk about style, we talk about Italy playing a boring defensive game, but they win with it, the Brasileños with their Joga Bonito, but they win. And then comes Mexico, we play very well, a very beautiful skills and passing game just like the Brasil team without the fantasies, that's how Mexico played, but that wasn't bringing wins in the decisive games. That was the only thing wrong with Mexico, that yeah, they dominated the other teams but at the end of the day, Mexico would lose the decisive ones.
And about Hugo, you said he didn't have enough credentials, well he's got more championships than La Volpe has, he had 2 titles with Pumas while La Volpe only had 1 title as a coach and that was in 1993 with Atlante, sure he might have done all the work in Toluca when Toluca won the Championship, but if any people think that La Volpe had enough credentials for it with 2 titles, then I don't see why Hugo wouldn't have enough when he had titles won.
And you bring up the Copa America in 2007, I don't see why people wouldn't give him any credit for it, I do. But let me ask you or anyone else who wants to, what about the Preolimpico? Why don't people want to give him credit in Copa America, but everyone says that it was his fault for Mexico not qualifying to the Olympics. Could it be that everyone overrated all those players who were in the Preolimpico and most of them that won the U-17 WC? Because I honestly think that people overrate those players, everyone has to see that those players are still promises, none of them are realities yet, not Carlos Vela, Giovani, or Villaluz or any of them, they need to prove themselves out to the world and make an impact to everyone. People need to get that. I think that most of the media and peope over valuated those players. When they had probably over 30 chances of scoring and only score 5, don't you think that Hugo should be left out of the picture there? Don't you think that it was all the player's that made those mistakes? I do.
About us asking for something higher than 3rd place in all of America, I think we all have to put our feet on the ground and know that we are not above either Argentina or Brasil, at least not right now. We need to be glad that we are at least in the top 3, and I agree 100% with Hugo when he said, we need to worry about catching up to Arg. and Brasil, not worry about the ones who are catching up behind us (Chile, Paraguay, Colombia, US, and those other countries with all due respect). And that's just how it is, after Argentina and Brasil, the next big team is Mexico and I think we should be proud. All we need to is just keep working harder and I'm sure that Sven Goran Eriksson will do that with the team, and by the way, he's the 5th best coach in ranking for most titles won. So we know, that we didn't get just any coach this time.

And finally, with Eriksson, I'm sure things will get better for us, but it's not as bad as some people make it sound, it's not to ring the alarm or anything, I've said this before, the game VS. Argentina didn't reflect the score if you saw the game, yes the better team won but it didn't reflect the 4-1 that it was. We ain't the worst for getting beat by Argentina or we ain't the best for beating Peru.

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to disrespect anyone or anything like that, it's everyone's opinion and it's respectable. I love my seleccion Mexicana but we have to be real with everyone and put our feet on the ground. Now, everyone can call me a "Terco", "Necio", or "Hard Headed", but I am one of those people who really think that Hugo Sanchez could've taken us somewhere really far, I really do. But I hope that one day he comes back for a 2nd chance. If anything, I would only think that it wasn't his time yet. Well anyways, I hope this long answer helped. Well, Peace!

[DudeX]

My opinion: We think that just because we have players in Europe, we should be a better team. But it doesn't happen like that. The whole reason LaVolpe's team played much better than Hugo's was because they played as a unit. These guys aren't playing as a unit. You need to both play in Europe, and learn to trust each other. These guys come back from Europe and they think they know everything and don't listen to their teammates during the game.

Hugo did not kill the chance to take the next step. I believe he took the best team he could have for the preolimpico. Is it his fault that players sucked and missed open shots? He put them in a position to succeed and they failed. I think he is an average coach, LaVolpe is much better. But it still wasn't his fault. People need to calm down. There is always a transition phase where the players miss the old coach and become skeptical. I think that once Sven comes in they will listen to him, well, because he has more experience than any coach we'eve had.

That being said I still think it was the right move to fire him. The moral was down, and changing coaches works sometimes. And we didn't change to just any coach, we changed to a great coach with experience at two world cups, which is extremely important.

[msp13everlasting]

To Eazy:
Hugo Sanchez didn't win anything as a coach. Those two titles that Pumas won belong to Sergio Ejea. As a matter of fact Sergio Ejea was basically the coach for Mexico. Even the players admitted that Hugo Sanchez didn't coach them, they said he was just the team motivator. Ejea was the one who taught tacticts and ran drills, all Hugo did was give speeches and call players because I'm sure Sergio was the one making the changes on the field. With Sven Mexico is getting a proven coach who actually knows about tactical play and orginization. I have a couple of Nery's Man City matches on DVR and I like the way Sven makes his team advance down the field with short passes not random long balls. Sven did a really good job with a team like Man City that doesn't have many great players besides Elano, Johnson, Joe Heart, Benjami, and Nery who had a bad season. Imagine what he can do with a team like Mexico with so much young talent. You could say what about England, he couldn't take them far. He got them to the fifth match both WC and both of those losses (Brazil and Portugal) were very close matches. I think we did go down a bit after Lavolpe but I think with Sven we can go higher than Lavolpe ever did.

[ticallionstallion3166363]

it was Hugo Sanchez ego that killed mexico!!!!!!




instead of going over tactical moves or plays, this dude would show videos of how he scored goals in real madrid to the olympic team.......did it work?

now tell me isnt that a little too much ego?!

[mj23]

People calm the f u C k down and let's wait for a recovery from our squad,they did not accomplished a single thing while under Hugo Sanchez ,the story is going to be alot different with Sven Goran Eriksson a true coach .

[HatecrewMaggotakaKidJack1107]

We could point the finger at everyone right now...but the damage is done! I'm pretty sure that Sven-Gorn will turn this team around and put down disapline on the players and will we will see results as time goes by! Lets leave the past in the past and looks towards whats ahead!